I think that, you know, we're quite close on this issue. And the other one that I wanted to- one of the other ones, I have other things to say. It would probably be better if we weren't close. Well, we have a more interesting conversation. We'll get there. You also said some words that get certain people's ears perked up about faith and science in the sense that even scientists need a certain kind of faith. So let me let you make the pitch for that; then I think I'm going to disagree with it.

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