I think they lost more C-130s than they ever admitted to over there, because the one I was on, the gunship, he's at 3,000 feet. The burst went off in front of the nose, and I hit the deck behind the naval flight deck. But that was quite an experience. Those C-130 guys, they had Cajamas. They've sacked their parachutes back over here, and they have their pile back there. Really? What do you do if you get hit? Because in my mind, you hit hit. You might take the whole wing off or the end of it,. Then it starts to tumble, and you're not going to

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