"Laughter is crucial, because laughter turns out to be the one emotion that can't be compelled," she says. "In many Native American cultures, there's a God of laughter who is neither male nor female and connects the known world to the unknown world." In so many photographs of you and your organizing partners, whether it's you and Bella Abzug, Flo Kennedy, Dorothy Pittman Hughes or Wilma mankiller,. You all seem to be laughing. There's so much joy and laughter. We have to understand how this is possible after so many decades of fighting against this unrelenting bullshit.

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