Efforts to Save Hawaii's Honey Creepers and Vanishing Birds

Interest in birdwatching has been booming, and Ed Yong is one of the millions who have fallen hard. Yong is a Pulitzer-prize winning science writer previously of the Atlantic, where he was one of the first journalists to deeply investigate long COVID. He says birding has has a transformative impact on his life in the last year, and hopes the same might be true for COVID long haulers.

• Plus: one unique effort to save a bird population in Hawaii.

Guests: Ed Yong, science writer and author of "An Immense World"; bird conservation researcher and journalist Anders Gyllenhaal.

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