Jason: A lot of the executives in the Valley, they're just not gamers. And when Mitch and I've talked about when we look at investing in a studio, for example, it's actually how intentional are they at the beginning of setting out that you are going to try and become a platform-based publisher. Look at Google and Stadia. It's like they were credible as a platform- based publisher where Facebook never was. Yeah, 10 cent in QQ is they had the games. They were committed and they were so intentional.

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