Do

you think it's taking a page out of other more mainstream sports? There are ski academies, there's gymnastics camps, there's like boarding schools for tennis players, they're hyper focused. Do you think that this next chapter will kind of take a page out of some of that? I

don't know. I don't know. I don't know if climbing needs that quite as much. And at least where we are right now, there isn't so much money in climbing that people are willing to send their kids to, you know, like a tennis camp. I think there's just so much money in the sport that people are willing to take that next step. I think climbing still has a little bit of its counter -cultural ... It's just not quite there yet, but I wouldn't be shocked if in 15 or 20 years that's more of a thing.

Yeah. There is, I feel like, one example, one family that's pioneered a path. Alex, who are the rabbitus? The

rabbitus are, well, it's a whole family. I don't even know where you start. The father, Didier Rabbitu, was a French competition climber, World Cup champion, whatever, like, expert climber. The mother, Robin Eversfield, was an American sport climbing champion. They had and so the oldest child, Shawn Rabatou, is one of the strongest boulders in the world. And then their younger daughter, Brooke Rabatou, is going to the Olympics and one of the best competition climbers in the world. Yeah. Brooke

is arguably on the path to becoming one of the great all -arounders, where she can both climb outdoors at the highest levels and win a World Cup. She's already doing that. And at this stage, she's also of the most seasoned competitors when it comes to the Olympics.

Today we talked to her about her path back to the Olympics, how you grow from mistakes, and what happens when a generation of competitors decide to take their talent outdoors. Our Steam producer,

John Bergman, joins to give some perspective. I'm

Alex Arnold.

I'm Fitska Hall. This is Climb and Gold. Welcome to Paris. You

may have just set the speed record for tech. We have a running record for various guests. Nice. That was pretty good. Sam Watson actually was maybe your main competitor for tech savviness.

I feel like he's maybe more tech savvy than me, I just got lucky.

Yeah, yeah, but you had a good start. Yeah, nice. I'm

Brooke Rabatoo, I'm a professional rock climber based out of Boulder, Colorado. I'm 23 years old. I've been climbing pretty much since I was like two years old. Both my parents were professional climbers, so pretty much my whole life.

Nice. Do you remember starting climbing? I

don't remember like when I was two, actually starting, but I do have like fond memories of climbing in France, outdoors, near like where my family lives out there. Do my first like top ropes and lead climbs and I was in like diapers and stuff. I don't know if I really remember it if I just seen pictures and stuff, but it feels like a memory.

At what point did you start climbing indoors slash competition climbing? You know, because you're someone who grew up climbing outdoors, basically. I

just grew up doing both my whole life, honestly. So I don't remember like when I started indoor or when I started outdoor, cause that was just always my life. It'd be most of the winter, you know, I was in Boulder with my family to school and climbing and doing competitions with ABC. And then all of the summers I'd spent outdoors in France and Europe traveling. But yeah, indoor first memories. I mean, ABC used to be based out of the BRC. So we had like a little room and like a little tree house. And I remember climbing there, doing like competitions and most of all just climbing with like my friends who were also really strong. There was probably 10 of us that were competing nationally and I feel like I just remember having a good time more than like the actual moments themselves.