Preet is joined by tech journalist and Pivot podcast host Kara Swisher for a conversation with California Governor Gavin Newsom at the Code Conference in Los Angeles. They talk about his ambitious climate policy, the California housing crisis, and why he’s in a war of sorts with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. Then, Preet speaks on a panel with New York Magazine’s Olivia Nuzzi, GOP political strategist Mike Murphy, and documentary filmmaker Alex Holder. They discuss Trump’s recent legal trouble, and how Trumpism reflects on today’s Republican Party. 

In the bonus episode for CAFE Insiders, Preet speaks with Anne Neuberger, a top cybersecurity advisor in the Biden administration. They discuss how to rebuild American infrastructure, and the threat of foreign malicious cyber activity. To listen, try the membership for just $1 for one month: cafe.com/insider. 

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