The Relationship Between Credit and the Utopian Community

I want to ask you about the relationship between this um utopia that you've described and like the world that we live in. I thought you said that this group of people what unifies them is that they want to know and learn so are you saying these group of people they want toknow and learn and also they want credit? And if that's true couldn't we just define a slightly more utopian group of intellectuals the ones who actually just want to know  and aren't and don't want credit, he asks. He says part of the challenge of designing social institutions is to find ways to harness this collective interest to create incentives which can then harness our private interests in the promotion of