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Don't Ask About the Elevator

American Diplomat

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Pete Romero: We're talking to Charlie Rufkin, a political appointee ambassador. He was assistant secretary of state for economic business affairs at the State Department. And we're going to talk to him about what it's like being an ambassador and dealing with sometimes crusty bureaucratic foreign service officers. American diplomat is made possible in part by the generous support of Arizona State University's leadership diplomacy and national security lab.

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