How to Make Sense of Awareness Subtly Imported

Lucas: I think something that gets imported subtly from a materialist paradigm is that granted, let's grant that. And you drink wine and because experience is conditioned and wine is like say a dream manifestation of the non-local self,. And it interacts with the dream brain and produces like conditioned effects that we experience as like modulations of the content of Awareness. So there are ways that you can perturb or destroy or mutilate a brain such that it will have effects on awareness. Lucas: You don't know that it has an effect on awareness. You presume that it does, but you don't know. But imagine if you could turn the camera around and take a snapshot of