Foucaud and Bodeard, Is There a Difference?

For Bodeard, we've always been simulated and we can't discount that. For Foucaud, reality and the sign form are separate, whereas for Bodeard they intertwine. Now, in terms of sexuality, to bring it back once again, Bodeard would think it completely naive that we can just dissociate sexuality from these things called bodies and pleasure. And yeah, I mean, that pretty well, it's a very brief introduction to that discussion."