Yes, it's true. We've gone way over, haven't we? No, we haven't. Okay, nevermind. Why

hasn't Kamala Harris put out a platform on her website? Who cares? Yeah Honestly who gives a shit? Yeah,

you

heard it on

the speech Let me tell you why she doesn't do a platform because when I was a Republican and the Democrats put out a plan for Climate or health care and guns or any other thing? They'd always be like 700 pages long. You know what I would do I get 10 interns. I'd lock him in a room, feed them fucking Domino's Pizza and say, find me 27 things that scare Grandma.

Yeah.

So when the Green New Deal bill was running around,

what did they do?

They said, you can't have hamburgers or fly on airplanes. You have to eat insect loaves. They always find something scary to weaponize. Forget about it. Yeah. Barack Obama didn't have a policy section on his website. He had three things. Hope, change, yes we can. That's it. Don't play that game. Don't fall into the trap. Policy is death in presidential campaigns. All

right, I'll take it. It's a bumper sticker.

Yeah.

Yeah. Okay,

I'm gonna break up the questions everybody was asking because we got a great one from Jennifer Lindsay. How do you guys think Steve Bannon's doing? Ahh.

This is like just a question for Rick. Rick, where is Steve Bannon right now?

Steve Bannon is an inmate in the Danbury Federal Correctional Facility in Danbury, Connecticut, and recently received a copy of my book, Everything from Such as Dies. Are

you really? I

sent it to him. I did that to Paul Manafort when he was in prison too, and it amused me so much I had to do it again. I also encourage my followers on Twitter to send Steve Bannon as much Japanese tentacle porn as they could find. Because what could go wrong? No, Steve will be out of prison in a... Right, in time for the election. In about four weeks? Five weeks? But he's immediately going on trial for his build the wall fraud. Yes. There's another guy that depends on Donald Trump to save his ass. And look, I'll say this about Steve Bannon. That is a second-rate intellect with a first-rate degree of malice. And the malice is made up for a lot of the lack of intellect. He is a guy who really believes fervently. He is an outright nationalist populist. He believes that America is a blood and soil country of white people. And he's a guy who is a black man. And he's a black man. And he's a black man. And he's a black man. And he's a black man. And he's a black man. And he's a black man. And he's a black man. And he's a black man. And he's Christians and not a propositional nation that from the beginning, as flawed as our beginning was, was designed to allow people to become Americans no matter where they were born or what God they worship. So Bannon can fuck right off and I hope he enjoys another prison term after this prison term.

So tell us what you really think.

Well, I think he's gonna come out of jail like that scene in Zoolander 2. With his ripped as hell, got a big Nazi swastika tattoo with an eagle on it on his chest. Right between his moobs. All right, Jesse. That was light! A prison segment! I

enjoyed it personally. I often think about Steve Bannon suffering for many years. Because I've had to suffer by listening to his fucking podcast to clip things Okay, can I ask you a technical

question? Yeah, I record five podcasts a week. Mm-hmm. I'm exhausted by that shit. How does Steve Bannon aside from methamphetamine? Get on that goddamn podcast and talk for like 17 hours a day. Yeah

think we all know this that you once called him a thing that stuck with me. The human skin tag. Yes. The podcasting feeds the skin tags. Steve is like a bag of suet. Rancid suet. Okay.

Well I think he's, are you alright? Okay. Alright you're done. Okay so a

conversation Molly and I had, and How many of you watched the Tim Wals Talking to Kamala YouTube video? I thought it was one of the most genius videos I've ever seen, but she is clearly not doing as many mainstream interviews as many people would like. What do you two think of this? I

think they could fuck right off. I honestly, Chris Salliza, who is on this list. No, no, you're doing that

later. You're doing that later.

Oh, uh oh. Remember

I said that campaigns were an unknown geography. I believe they should proceed to the valley where all my fucks have died. Lay down on the ground and let nature take its course and the buzzard should pick their skin. The interviews are a trap. Don't play their game. Play your game. Go out. Do big rallies.

You know, it is actually, in a lot of cases, it's good to give interviews. I have to say this because... I know you do....this is where my bread is buttered. But in this case, with American democracy on the line, and 70 days to go, and the mainstream media really treating the two as the same, I think she should just tell them to fuck right off.

There's no upside.

There's no upside for her

and all upside for Trump. And by the way, again, to loop back on the policy question for a second. If she had a policy document for every big subject, and then she did an interview, they would say, well, on page 74 of your climate plan, you say that it's 325. two parts per billion of carbon and your plan says it's 345 and I think I mean they will play that game right point where it just becomes this exhausting and Washington's circle-jerk media game And

I think it's worth pointing out that Donald Trump does have a policy plan. It's called project 20 25 it mentions his name 300 plus times it's written by many people worked for him. And he's like, I have nothing to do with it.

Of the 144 authors, 93 are former Trump administration campaign officials. It has nothing to do with Project... Oh, what? No,

absolutely nothing.

It's almost like if you wanted to learn more or show somebody more about Project 2025 you could go on to YouTube and write Molly Jung fast project 2025. An

excellent series. An excellent series mostly with a lot of heavy lifting from Jatsang.

Thanks. Okay another media question. All of us know Trump is not mentally well. George is doing lots of things about his psychiatric bad being. Right, psycho, be psychopath. Yes, you can't call it well-being, it's bad being. Why do you think the mainstream media can't say those words the same way? They can't say many things, and is there any way to get them to do it? Clicks and eyeballs.

Right. Trump is great for business. Right, I mean. He's bad, he's great for business. Yeah. And if you made him crazy, if you said he is mentally ill, if you spoke the truth and said Donald Trump has a suite of mental illnesses that are going to eventually involve thousands of psychiatrists writing new volumes of the DSM, it would disqualify the ability of the press to treat them as equals.

They

want you to think this is a standard Republican and a standard Democrat, and they want you to think that's the frame And if you really admitted that Trump was that crazy, you can't hold that frame anymore I

also think that mainstream media is terrified of being called partisan. Oh god. So working

the refs, right?

so they say well, you know and I think also the the craveness and the craziness of Trump has really caught a lot of the mainstream media flat-footed. Like they just didn't know how to write those kind of stories without feeling that they were outing themselves as liberals.

There's like a lot of... Yeah,

well, there's like a lot... Yeah, it's ridiculous. I agree.

There's a lot of Stockholm Syndrome with these reporters too. And they're trapped in this thing. Where if you want Trump to call you on your cell phone at 12 in the evening. It's access journalism. And if you want him to give you the inside story. Because by the way, half the leaks in the Trump administration are from Donald Trump. Literally half of them. John Barron. Yeah. He said.

Right.

and Kelly Ann that's right yeah by

the

way Kelly Ann really hates me oh

she really hates me too yeah oh

oh wow that's all

I have spent an entire second worrying about that. Yeah, not me. Yes,

the feeling is robust enough. Yes. Okay.

North Carolina, Florida, Rick, you know the South. What do you see there? What do you think could happen in this election there?

Georgia too. Yeah, that's a good point. I think North Carolina and Georgia should be the question.

Yeah, North Carolina and Georgia are on our list now. They weren't before. She's opened those up. And I'll tell you three big things to watch for. In Georgia, when Reverend Warnock was on the ballot, we saw African-American voter turnout increase dramatically. We're about to see the same thing in Georgia. Our model showing it already starting to pop. The other thing we've noticed in Georgia, and we went out identified a group that the Democrats have very much taken for granted, and rightly so because they voted with them a hundred percent of the time, basically, that exists in the Atlanta metro area at scale, as in few other places. There's a very, very large cohort of professional African-American women in the Atlanta metro area. It's called the donut of counties around Atlanta. And in the donut, in four of those counties, three of them particularly, Fulton, Chatham, and DeKalb, you have enormous numbers of professional African-American women. They are fired up for Connell Harris for a good reason. They

also are

part of the HBCU, Divine Nine Sorority Culture, which Trump of course called very unimportant. Good play, Donald. Right. Might wanna roll David Duke out again if you're gonna keep up that one, Donald. But, so Georgia's gonna be a place where we think is, is now a state that is in the winnable category. A lot of work can be done, a very hard slog ahead, but 65% of the vote in Georgia comes out of the donut.

The

red parts of Georgia are like the northeast frontier province of Pakistan. They're so conservative. The donut is a purple area of the state, and there's also a purple area of the state in Savannah. And in Savannah, that's where a lot of our Lincoln Project Republican voters live, more affluent, more educated, much more moderate. So we think George is moving into the winnable category. North Carolina, the Robinson, the governor's candidate, the Republican Party, I call him rabid Tim Scott. He is not good. He is completely bonkers. And

he's running about 10 points

behind. And he's running about 10 points behind. We rarely see the down-ballot candidate kill the presidential candidate, but we may see that in North Carolina. Also North Carolina. That's the legacy

of Trumpism though. You know, you pick these terrible candidates and it just degrades the field.

Yeah. They're always going to pick the trash because Trump likes the trash. Right. And so you're going to end up, I think, North Carolina is very much in play. My home state of Florida, it is a much closer race than it was expected to be. It is now about a three point race in Florida. Don't get your hopes up yet. But the positive part about Florida being close, and by the way, she's tied in Palm Beach and 15 points ahead in two surveys, one point Miami-Dade, Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, when you add those three counties up, it's 54% of the likely voter turnout in Florida. Does that mean she's going to win? No. Because the rest of Florida, again, Northwest Frontier Province of Pakistan. Crazy red. But Florida's in play in one big place in the country, and that's in Trump's brain. They are starting to spend money in Florida, which is like building a bonfire on top of a volcano. You were gonna burn through money like nobody's business and that's what he's doing now and if he's spending money there...