Greg Ohlendorf knows the secret. He is one of two people to have ever played Golf Magazine’s World Top 100 Courses, Golfweek‘s Top 100 Modern and Top 100 Classic Courses, plus a course in all 50 states. The biggest lesson he’s learned? Checking courses off a list doesn’t get the blood flowing. True golf adventure does.

Ohlendorf, who wrote “The Road to Diùranais” in TGJ No. 17 about his wild ride to an under-the-radar Scottish nine-holer, joins host Tom Coyne to discuss the joys of finding new tracks, how on Earth he accomplished those lists and the flaws behind lists in general in this live recording from the main stage of the Broken Tee Society.