Zen - Is Enlightenment a Real Conversation?

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i was going to ask you where the cross over point is for you, and i think you just answered, which is real conversation. And that's why there's a very powerful kind of companionship between the apprenticeship to try and deep states of intentionality in zen or any contemplative tradition. I mean, you could say that prose is really about something. Poetry is the thing itself, or it should be good poetry as at least. The central practice, even in the christian tradition, is about this direct perception, tis cloud of unknowing. Ye gave way to necessary grief. That door, which is no door at all. Ora, where you actually want

David Whyte is a poet and author who also leads the Many Rivers Organization and Invitas, the Institute for Conversational Leadership, which he founded in 2014. David is the author of many poetry collection and prose books, including his newest book, Still Possible

In this episode, Eric and David discuss several of David’s beautiful poems from his latest collection, as well as some of his older work.

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David Whyte and I Discuss The Art of Poetry and Prose and…

His book, Still Possible
His poem, Your Prayer
The metaphor of a doorway, and how it can be a barrier or an opening in your life
Beautiful forgetting and how we can get out of and then into ourselves
How depression is a form of stuckness
Asking yourself how invitational you are to the people in your life
His book, The Three Marriages
How poetry is the art of saying things you didn’t know you knew
His poem, The Road to Santiago
How our reluctances are doorways to connection to other people
Anxiety and how it is a kind of staticness
How not knowing is great intimacy
The importance of silence and rest