This hour we look at a side of e s g investing that many of us are either misunderstanding, or perhaps we're just looking the other way. Plus venture capitali steve ksco founder of, course, of america on line, now chairman and seat of revolution. They talk about building a sustainable brand. We're also talking luxury goods. How the likes of berbery, guche and moore? Well, they are planting their flags in the old metaverse, t us. It's happening.

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