The Second Interview With Dr. Zoltan

Zoltan Kuznetsov and I had our second interview four years ago. It was at your place, right? It was your house. Right. You came, I picked you up at the airport. Well, I was there. Yeah, it was there speaking at a Toronto conference. And I remember you and I were looking at some of the virtual reality gear together, I think. So, but I do remember the talk and it was it was controversial at the time because I had caused a lot of problems in the actual transhumanism movement with the presidential run. But thankfully, I'm not causing that many problems anymore. so I hopefully all is bad.