"I grew up in a time where Western culture was trying to look at do we really want to have what, you know, the man in the gray panel suit gave us," he says. "And so how can we manage this magnificent invention of language on the one hand that gave us the ability to talk across how many miles right now?" He adds: "It's out of wanting to use every tool in the book we've got to try to create modern minds for the modern world."

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