Michael: I've used databases quite a bit okay one difficult thing about databases is googling is like trying to google any sort of like errors around databases it's you know like it was what's gonna come up. Tom Christie that's escaped me there yeah yeah yeah definitely cool he does a lot stuffYeah that guy's busy I've had him on the show before he's definitely a busy guy that's awesome cool so it's like a wrapper around SQL alchemy core that then will give you back proper queries and stuff like thatyeah nice okay ODM's just really quick mentions is I was recently talking about beanie on Python bytes beanie's kind of cool it's an async way