Laurie discusses DC Schindler’s views on the limitations of liberal religious toleration and his argument for a better toleration that coincides with increased influence or even establishment of the Catholic Church. This subject allows Laurie to contrast Schindler’s views with those of Christian anarchists and anti-empire theologians, and to explore whether or not Schindler’s views are, in fact, utopian, or at least unconsciously still influenced by Enlightenment thinking.

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