What does masculinity mean these days? Sean Illing speaks with Christine Emba, a columnist at The Washington Post who wrote the piece “Men are lost. Here’s a map out of the wilderness.” Together they discuss the confusing state of manhood, why figures like Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate hold appeal, and how masculinity could be redefined.

Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

Guest: Christine Emba (@ChristineEmba), Washington Post columnist and author of Rethinking Sex: A Provocation

References:

“Men are lost. Here’s a map out of the wilderness” by Christine Emba (The Washington Post, July 10, 2023)
Rethinking Sex: A Provocation by Christine Emba (Sentinel, 2022)
“Did the sexual revolution go wrong?” from The Gray Area (Vox, May 11, 2022)
“Men and boys are struggling. Should we care?” from The Gray Area (Vox, December 12, 2022)
“The Rage and Joy of MAGA America” by David French (The New York Times, July 6, 2023)

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