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Daniel Toma's Three Levels of Perfection with Ted Stiritz: Life as Liturgy

The Meaning Code

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The Importance of Knowing Your Reality

Toma: I used to think that man, my heart desires certain things. Give me those things. But what it means, I mean, I had this aha moment one day driving through a blizzard on the way to graduate school and said "Clean me the desires of my heart" The trick is to want to want God or to want, say the goodness of being to put it in Peterson's language, which was, I think just lowers it a level. You have to turn from your own belief, your own excellences? And then you can see the anomalies as goodness itself.

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