Detroit's defense and conference outlook

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Kirk Goldsberry to discuss all the NBA teams through updated power rankings (3:16). Then, Chris Ryan and Craig Horlbeck join to talk about their favorite NFL teams and the playoff picture (01:38:38).

Host: Bill Simmons

Guests: Kirk Goldsberry, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck

Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo

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