Confrontation

Sothat is the meta modern answer, in that sense, to kind ofto onboard fundamentalist religious people through through workshops and semonarsnd. And then so we'd get to them more secular, a kind of threshold like like europe has. It's not always leading us directly to the, to the promised land, so to speak. But at least we have a direction, and they're consistent and true. Ah, so you're talking about confrontation as a means to address em this kind of issue? Definitely.