Doris Meisner was in charge of U.S. immigration during the Clinton administration and she studied this issues for decades. She says it's useful to take a step back to before the pandemic and how people were coming to the United States. For lots of folks they're escaping gangs, violence, persecution because of things like sexual orientation or gender. But what other folks know is that if you come across the border and claim asylum status, you have to go before a judge.

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