i want to pick up on two things. Something that henry just said, which was about the idea that we should experiment with a sister dying as a way of understanding whether this is the right thing for society. And also catherine, what you said, and you've said a number of times now, which is that at a national level, we haven't dealt with death. We don't talk about it. So i want to talk about this issue. How do we have debate that does open this to the public? Here 's a privileged class who are talking about this at the moment. What is it about the way that we're having this discussion which will actually only further inequalities

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