I think getting rid of shame is a really important part of I often find when you see like MPs being appalled by things I always find it just quite revealing when they do a tweet. It used to be depression was seen purely as a flaw and people like Brian E Gordon have done amazing things in that kind of area, but now we're seeing real life examples rather than abstracted rants in the Daily Mail. People's minds change very quickly when they are presented with real life examples rather than these abstracted rans in the DailyMail. going to stop flowing well I mean yeah yeah and where the things are presented in the context of shame I think that's really important I think

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