The gray area is a philosophical take on culture politics and everything in between. Post-Chon Illing sits down with journalists, authors, academics to get some cool takes on a very hot world. The first few episodes feature a conversation with Neil deGrasse Tyson on scientific illiteracy; Reza Azlan on the state of organized religion in America. New episodes drop every Monday and Thursday. Listen and follow the gray area in your favorite podcast app.

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