We have these, I think, pre tragic ideas of you want to slay the demon or even in ayahuasca, it was like slay the dragon. So that's pre tragic, you're a kid and you're like, I'll slay the dragons. We got dragons to slay. And then in the tragic where it didn't make sense anymore, which I was in for a long time, I was like, well, you don't want to slayThe dragons. You claim your own personal power by slaying them. That becomes the actualization of you as a hero who has incorporated your own dragonness,. Your own dragon heart, you know, so to speak.

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