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Jill Phillips Goes Deeper Into Love.

The Habit

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Immigrate, Isn't It?

"How do you be a person who doesn't minimize sorrow and also is full of hope? I've just find that, you know, those paradoxes are very much a part of us," she says. "I don't even know that i'm the best person to n it, but i can tell you what it looks like for me ... somewhere on this continuum between rigidity and chaos."

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