Venture Debt and the Vacuum of Opportunity

The SVV was the biggest funder of venture back companies for many decades, has now evaporated. And there's this huge vacuum that I think is going to create a lot of opportunity for backing venture and the debt position. So you're actually, you're taking debt risks. But if they were previously paying 12%, maybe they'll still pay 12% plus you're getting options or equity warrants or some sort of upside on top of it makes it effectively a 15 or 18% return.

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