i was raised as a tomud kid. Like, i was raised in a, in a little bit of a midraas, exactly. Richard rore loves a midrosh. I think there is something about discourse and argument and affirming your ideas through argument. But real connection is in conversation. And conversation sometimes entails disagreement. We know that t a flowing river that's in relationship to its environment and its adapting and changing and always moving, is so much nearer and more beautiful than a stagnant pond you don't want to swim in.