Yeah, I would agree with that. Um, listen, if you want to go dice, we can dissect a bunch of throws.

Like the biggest play, the biggest missed opportunity for Washington was that

what should have been a corner route by, uh, by O'Dune's day when he

broke it off. Cause he like a lot of times both guys can be right, but both guys can be wrong. And I thought that this is a classic case. That's a cover two where the cornerback is, is playing the flat, right? Underneath the safety. I think it was, I think it was Rod Moore, uh, the safety got caught inside and he, he had, he was out of position, but even if the safety is in the proper, well, if the safety is in the proper position, O'Dune's a runs the corner route. But what happened was he got to the top of his stem, the top of his route where you can break in, you know, post in out, what all that stuff at the top of his stem and saw that the safety had gone with one of the inside receivers and was like, Hey, I'm wide open and kind of hands up. The problem for Pennox was even if, even if you're wide open, you're still like, this is a cover two. The second they showed cover two, doesn't matter where that safety went. You got to run a corner route. That's the option read on this. Like it is a hundred out of a hundred times run the corner route. Okay. He doesn't run the corner route. He kind of, he leverages it off and kind of stays and stays down the seam more. And you saw it was a, it was a miss by inches had O'Dune's a run his route that you're supposed to run against cover

two and get more flat to the corner towards the sideline. It's a completion

like it is 99 other times on that, on that play. He was wide open, saw the safety go and was just like, put it on me. So there's blame on O'Dune's a run your route against that coverage. The ball is going to be where it's supposed to be. Then there's blame on Pennox. This is the other part like, yes, the ball is supposed to go there, but you got a receiver wide open, put it on him. Just put it on him. So it wasn't everyone said, Oh, he's off target tonight. He's not accurate. That wasn't the case. It was the receiver was not where he was supposed to be. And it was just because of a fluke situation that occurred, but that play was critical. Other than that, the whole like my takeaway is, and it's what we've kind of known about Pennox. He's got some mobility in terms of like pocket mobility,

but when you bottle him up and you take away those deep things like Michigan did, that's when he becomes

pretty, not want to say ordinary, but that's when he becomes beatable. And that's exactly what Michigan did. As a pro evaluator, projecting him to the next level, you always want to look at like, what can he do? What makes him special? What's the NFL comp? Like what can he be if everything,

if he has the right supporting cast and it's in the right system?

But then you also have to

look at it in a lot of great general managers that I've talked to and have had the good fortune of spending time

with. There's always going, there's always, there always has to be this conversation.

Every great GM that I respect focuses on this.

Like, I want to know the positive. I want to know who he can be if

he has the right system and the right supporting cast. But I also need to

know if he fails, why is he going to

fail? And with Pennox, you have two very obvious

things. First is durability because there's a history

of it. And

because of his style of play, not being able to protect himself with that mobility. And second

is if you do what Michigan did, get pressure on him. He doesn't have to be sacks, but get pressure on him, take him off his spot and

take away that deep ball, that first second read,

drive the ball down the field, then he becomes beatable.

And so now we know why he's going to fail. And you got to weigh that as a general manager.

From a talent standpoint, when things are going right, you can argue he's the best pure passer in this class. You know, Caleb Williams is special in his own regard, Drake May is special in his own regard. But if you're talking pure pocket passes, I think Pennox is the best pure pocket passer in this

class. But I know too many ways that he could fail.

And that's why,

like, is he a first rounder? Yeah, maybe possibly like mid to late first round.

But I also, if he falls to the second round, it's because of those two reasons that

you're scared of and it's going to keep you up at night as a general manager saying, if I'm drafting him in the first round,

trying to get that fifth year option for a quarterback, because you want him to be your franchise quarterback, you're saying, okay, am I willing to give up all of that for a quarterback that I'm not sure is going to be be the guy for the next 10 years. That's why a lot of guys you see, you force them into the first round because you want that fifth year option. But ultimately, if you don't believe in that guy and you think that there's enough reasons why he might might not succeed, then you

go to the second third round with all those other quarterbacks. And that's why you see a lot of guys forced into the first that don't pan out. And then a lot of teams say, and the second round, if I didn't love him enough to take him in the first, let's just wait till the third. So

he's going to be a fascinating case study on whether a team believes that they can protect him physically

and protect his weakness. Because if you can get the most out of Michael

Pennics, he's got a chance to be a really good pro.

Yeah, look, I figure

with Washington, especially after the sugar bowl, you're like, okay, the Pennics to either one of those receivers, like that's good for 14 points. And it wasn't the case at all last night. They hit Rome, the holding penalty that got called back. They finally hit him a little bit later. But even with some moments of slight confusion, not really burning Michigan that much to hold up against that passing attack all night, massive credit to the defensive coaching staff, the prep and the players in the secondary, never feeling that that was a real threat when that's exactly who Washington has been.

So two quick things before we finish up here.

If you were Harbaugh, which NFL job would you take? Because look, everybody thought he was gone two years ago. This has been going on for months in our world. We're like, oh, he's gone. He's gone. He's gone. He doesn't want to deal with this since the

aid stuff anymore.

I don't know. You never know what this guy. But it feels like he changes representation. He's with Don Yi now, which is a serious player and all this. So I think that should be factored into it and that he could have multiple opportunities here. And you were dead set on going to the NFL. Which team would you

choose? I would look at the Washington situation with

new ownership, with the

people that they have in place making decisions. And I would consider that and the fact that they have the number two pick in the draft and it could be Caleb Williams, Drake May, over Chicago. Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, Chicago would absolutely be. Yes, Chicago would be a strong possibility. I don't know if it's because I think he's going to go

there. And because I know his love for Justin

Herbert, but I think the Chargers is the most

likely. And how great would it be to see Harbaugh coaching Justin Herbert and some of the talent that they have? That organization is just plague. I don't know if it's a training regimen, whatever it is, but the injuries that they seem to have,

I'd say more so than any other team in the league.

But the talent is there. You know, to me, that would make a lot of sense too. So

you look for those first two teams in the draft, Chicago, Washington, but I think I think the Chargers, and I've heard Las Vegas.

I just, if I'm

going to make that decision and leave a place that I love and something that I've built,

I also like, it's easier to coach in the NFL these days because of the NIL and because of recruiting and because of the transfer portal and all the other stuff. And I know he's pissed off at the big 10 and, you know, other, a lot

of other people in college football. So it makes sense that he's going to move on. And he accomplishes goal,

right? But if I'm Jim Harbaugh, it's

an easier life at this point. I did what I wanted to accomplish at Michigan. I can stay at Michigan and I've built something great. And I can turn this into, you know, a Nick Saban run. If I want to chase that or what Kirby smarts doing at Georgia, like I've got an opportunity to do that. But do I want to go back to the NFL and achieve the ultimate goal

there and try to win a Superbowl? And if I do, am I

trusting that I'm going to bring in a rookie quarterback and develop him? I just think it would be, it would be fascinating if coaching Herbert and brought staff with him to do what he wants to do. So

I

ultimately, I do think he leaves. I think he's had enough and judging by how evasive he was. How funny by the way.

He's got a point though. You know, hey, can I enjoy this right now? Look, you have to ask that question. I mean, those rumors have been going on like really like from multiple people throughout the season. I've been like, Hey, you know, he's gone. You know, he's gone. I'm like, all right. Well, I heard the same thing two years ago.

And so. Did they ever get him on van pelt last night? I fell asleep waiting. No, they did. Did you watch it? How was it?

It was great. It was great. Like everybody likes Scott. Like you get some of these guys who in different situations maybe aren't going to be as good. And I think there's just such an affection for Scott for doing it for two plus decades that when they come on, it's like the guys are excited. They're just a looser version of themselves. I see

more. Yeah, no, 100% all of those guys. I mean, I know it'd be great. I just didn't know if he was as evasive with Scott as he has been with everybody else over the last two weeks.

Look, I remember when he was at Stanford and I got him on a phone. And I had already met him like three times. I'd shown up to the hotel for a game day radio, you know, trudge over there with your little microphone and wait and, you know, feel like a fucking loser just sitting

there, getting the

audio. You know, I remember sitting in stoops office, you know, like, what's going on in your defense, man? You know, it's like, great idea. What you failed to realize, Ryan. And I was like, oh, oh, but it was funny, you know, because we went from like not liking stoops at all the like, then all of us liked them. But with Harbaugh once I was, I kind of did like a, I asked the question that had to be asked about leaving for the NFL. And then I couldn't let it go. He's like, well, you're kind of badgering me now a little

bit. I was like, what? Nobody

does that. Earlier,

I told you the story about getting in trouble with ESPN going and doing this recruiting thing and kind of hosting a show. And like had built a relationship with Jim, right? And then I'm doing this sideline analyst

thing. And I've got to ask questions. And he had said all week, like he's not doing, I forget what it was

at that. There's always seems to be like a controversy or a problem or something like that. He said all week he wasn't going to talk. But I'm like, he's got, he'll talk to me. Like he'll at least answer a question.

Because like I don't, I put myself in jeopardy of my job. Like I've been texting and calling with him. Like I know Jim. I've had great meetings with Jim. And I go to get him at halftime and like the camera is on us,

right? So not only is he like turning me down, like the Nash, like ABC, 330 game, probably two, two and a half million people watching. Not only does he not do the interview, he stands there, looks at me and I'm like, Hey coach. And he looks at me and kind of gives me this disgust look. And then turns his back to me and runs away. And I was like, all right, I'm done. You know, like you just never, you never know what you're going to get with you. But honestly, the comic relief I had all week was, was watching

Jim just avoid and like

the social awkwardness of like, he's just so afraid that they're going to ask that question. And I understand why. And he's trying to avoid it because it should be about his players.

But talking about each piece of confetti has a

story and running away from the mics all week. I don't know if everyone else saw it the way I did, but I thought it was one of the funniest things of all of college football this past two weeks. Okay.

So the draft order is set for at least the non playoff teams. We'll get McChase top 10 right now.