Why innocent until proven guilty becomes jail until proven innocent

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(00:00) - Introduction
(02:43) - A Brutal Case Example
(04:47) - Why Do Criminals Still Walk Free?
(07:45) - Morbi Bridge Tragedy Explained
(23:31) - Was the Bridge Collapse Intentional?
(31:28) - How Often Does the Supreme Court Deliver Judgments?
(34:31) - His Childhood and Early Struggles
(40:23) - The Harshest Lesson Society Taught Him
(43:48) - Power and the Misuse of Law
(57:31) - False FIRs Against Men
(1:06:06) - Different Types of Bail Explained
(1:07:27) - Isn’t He Ever Afraid? & The Reality of Poverty
(1:14:42) - The Baroda Boat Tragedy
(1:20:57) - The Red Sandalwood Case & Gujarat Police
(1:34:52) - Hawala System Explained
(1:37:57) - The Loopholes Behind It All
(1:42:20) - Which Law Should Change in India?
(1:48:08) - Closing Thoughts
(1:48:57) - BTS
(1:49:50) - Outro

In today’s episode, we have Utkarsh Dave, an Advocate from Gujarat High Court. He is known for handling some of India’s most high-profile and complex cases. From the Morbi Bridge tragedy to red sandalwood smuggling and political pressure cases, Utkarsh opens up about the harsh realities of India’s legal system, where money, influence, and loopholes often decide the outcome more than justice.

We talk about his childhood, the lessons that shaped his fearless approach to law, and how seeing corruption, false FIRs, and courtroom manipulation firsthand taught him the value of truth and integrity.

In the last segment, Utkarsh reflects on the loopholes in India’s judiciary, the cases that changed him, and why he believes courage and persistence are the most important tools for anyone fighting for justice.

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