The Poor Will Always Be Among You

I don't know if like we could all be middle class up or middle class. I think somebody somewhere will always have to do some sort of service job and some sort of trade. And then I also tend to be a bit more cynical of people, I think people left to their own devices are gonna drift and do some gnarly things. But the idea is generally speaking, we can shift a society towards health,. It's no longer the 20%, it's now the 40%, or even the 60%. "It's really a matter of choice. It's a matter of free will," he says.