Practical tips: using voice and thinking models

A CMO Confidential Interview with Andy Sack and Adam Brotman, Co-Founders and Co-CEO's of Forum 3, authors of the book AI First, previously at Microsoft and Starbucks. Adam and Andy discuss the exponential growth of LLM's in the 3 years since the Chat GPT launch, the rapid pace of consumer adoption and "why there's never been a bigger prize in capitalism." Key topics include: why the circular tie-ups between the models and chip providers may make sense, their belief that only 5% of companies are well underway; why you should use AI at least 10 times a day; and how the "current way of doing business" is the biggest blocker to progress. Tune in to hear 2026 predictions, why you should have a "family password," and how an AI Zoom scam resulted in a $20 million loss for the company.

AI: The Year That Changed Marketing | Andy Sack & Adam Brotman on CMO Confidential

Former Starbucks Chief Digital Officer Adam Brotman and investor/operator Andy Sack return to break down AI’s wild 2025—and what’s next for marketers and the C-suite in 2026. We cover the rise of reasoning models and agents, chip-and-model tie-ups, who’s winning (and who’s falling behind), why only ~5% of companies are truly “underway,” and how consumer behavior is racing ahead of most enterprises. Adam and Andy deliver pragmatic guidance for boards, CEOs, and CMOs: where to lean in, how to organize, and what to build now.

What you’ll learn:

• The real story on model advances, agents, and the chip/energy bottlenecks

• Why supply-lock deals aren’t “circular nonsense” and how they’ll shape winners/losers

• Enterprise reality check: 5% vs. 95%, and why CEO/board sponsorship determines lift-off

• Consumer adoption, zero-click search, and how discovery is shifting under your feet

• Marketing beyond efficiency: ideation, synthetic testing, and creative at production speed

• 2026 predictions: Apple’s big AI move, the year of consumer agents, and new AI devices

• Risk & resilience: deepfake fraud, the “family password,” and change management that sticks

Actionable takeaways:

• Use AI 10×/day; turn on voice and select a “thinking/reasoning” model for complex work

• Treat AI as a company-wide transformation, not an IT pilot; pick a few high-value use cases and own them from the top

• Experiment with agentic workflows and AI video to compress cycle time from storyboard to launch

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About CMO Confidential

Hosted by five-time CMO Mike Linton, CMO Confidential goes inside the decisions, politics, and trade-offs of one of the most scrutinized jobs in the C-suite. New episodes every Tuesday on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube.

00:00 Intro & Sponsor: Typeface

02:00 Topic & Guests — Adam Brotman and Andy Sack

03:00 Three-year AI surge: usage, video, geopolitics

06:00 Reasoning models, long-duration agents, chip/energy demand

10:00 Midroll: Typeface

12:00 Capital tie-ups: supply lock vs. “circular money”

15:00 Winners & losers: the AGI race and consolidation

16:00 Enterprise adoption: board/CEO-led change vs. IT pilots

18:50 Reality check: 5% “well underway,” 95% early

22:00 Consumer adoption: everyday use, underutilization

25:00 Can companies keep up? Why most are lagging

27:00 Search is shifting: AI overviews, assistants everywhere

29:00 Marketing beyond efficiency: ideation, automation, CX

31:00 AI video examples to study (Kalshi ad, IAm8)

33:30 Agencies & consultancies adapting (Accenture, BCG, McKinsey)

34:30 2026 predictions: Apple’s big move, year of agents, new devices

36:00 2026 tensions: labor disruption, backlash, “bumpy” progress

38:00 Practical tips: use AI 10×/day, voice mode, “thinking” models

41:00 Tools & safety:  @lovable  family/business passwords

42:00 Deepfake/Zoom heist cautionary tale

44:00 Wrap-up: subscribe & episode library

44:30 Closing Sponsor: Typeface

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