Strategy, Depoliticization, and Talking Across Divides

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Given there is some confusion regarding my positions on immigration, I decided to release the BACKROOM exclusive episode (originally supposed to be for Patrons only) that I did with Benjamin Studebaker (Cambridge, and author of the Chronic Crisis of American Democracy) all on the subject of immigration,—what both the left and right get wrong, and what leftists & liberals don't understand about the rise of the far-right in Europe. This episode is a heavy one! 

The conversation delves into the complexities of immigration and why the left needs a better response to mass migration and how the far-right captured many working class people across the world. We address topics such as the assimilation, social cohesion, demographic change, brain drain, declining bargaining power, and  the socio-economic impacts of immigration, globalization, and neoliberalism more broadly. The dialogue also touches on the challenges and necessities of having an open discourse on immigration without falling into binary thinking ideological trap.

Timestamps: 

00:00 How Leftists and and Liberals Often Respond to immigration

04:25 Social Cohesion and Integration

12:55 Brain Drain and Economic Imperialism 

18:46 Assimilation Challenges

30:58 Modern Immigration Policies

45:21 European Union and Migration

55:07 Racism, Xenophobia and tribalism

56:05 Trust and Integration in Multi-Ethnic Societies

58:27 Leftist and Liberal Perspectives on Immigration

01:05:22 Cosmopolitanism vs. Localism

01:24:09 The Role of the Professional Managerial Class (PMC)

01:34:45 Technocratic Mindset and Immigration

01:39:58 Its about more than  "Living Standards"

01:41:45 Internationalism and Globalism Critique

01:45:39 Managerialism in Progressivism

01:52:14 Challenges of Assimilation and Immigration

02:27:13 Climate Change and Refugee Crisis

02:28:31 Concluding Thoughts on Political Discourse

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Outro Music by Karl Casey.

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