People should listen to his podcast this week in virology. He's also an incredible lecture and educator. It's fascinating. We all say stuff carelessly all the time. So he gets in a bit of trouble on some of the things you've said about like Dismissing lab leak theory. But not he's not making the folks. There's a difference when you say stuff like off the cuff, and when you're talking for out for hundreds of hours. You get to say your opinions. Will Smith. Slap. Wait, how long have we been recording? I was wondering how long it was going to take us before someone talked about Ukraine. No, no, Will Smith

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