On the PreSales Podcast, James Kaikis and Rich Kline connect on the topic "The 5 R’s of Leadership". Rich, Vice President of Solutions Engineering at OwnBackup, talks about the 5 R’s of Leadership: Revenue, Recruiting, Retain, Ramp, and Relationship. The 5 R’s are a way to think about what’s most important and how PreSales Leaders see the bigger picture. For scaling PreSales organizations, having a framework helps with great alignment.