"I can't even understand how it's possible to have forty five people in a room making a song, especially if that song is supposed to be representative of of living. You know, that technology doesn't bother me as much as that, no matter what happens with that song, is still going to be inside of the economy of streaming," he says. "If you are using sampling as part of a bass of your song, and you like sample nona hendrik and count se and somebody else, and you may like a big fat loop."