bascliff wrote a web ap for the state parks in vermont. It lets you upload your pictures to it, and then it keeps track of how many points you've got. You have to have so many things from each category, so it keepstrack of all that information for you. So i was able to write my first couple of web aps, which was great. And since i was already kind of a web guy anyway, that was an even bigger break through for me. I just sort of a, don't ask, ton't tell. Typa, i'm not going to talk about it. They're not going to ask me. I'll give hem something good