Sure, i'm thinking about it, cause saturday i worked for five hours. Maybe it was only four

hours. Merli totun squeeze things in before i log across and write.

I don't know that i've tried a lot of different things to make this work, and i don't know that i have settled on something that is perfect. I think for me, the biggest thing is, like, when i'm working, i'm working, and when i'm with the kids, i'm with the kids. And i think just like the mental space that puts me in helps alleviate frustration that i can't be working on the thing, cause the work will literally never be done. So this week end is a good example, because i have been really busy, as listeners of this podcast will know, working alo. And so i worked for like four hours this morning. Ant, i'm sorry. This was saturday. This was saturday morning. But what happened was we had scheduled out this time that we'd blocked this time for me to work, and i was going to be done it, like, i don't now, ten a m but i hadn't solved the problem, and it was a technical problem. So was really, really annoyed than i had to stop working at ten a m and so for the first like, from like, ten to 11, i'm like trying to figure out if we can reorganize the day so i can get more work time in. And then, you know, i was thinking to myself, and it's like, this is silly. Like, i have, i have time write this again. This we talk about though. But like, this is my life, right i don't have to solve this problem to day saturday, or to morrow sunday. This is a self imposed deadline. It's something i want to do, but right now i'm just going to let, i go and be with my family, and we're going to do family stuff. And so that, although i'm doing the same physical thing, the mental shift from like, now is worktime, now is not worktime, that helps me a lot not stress about not doing what i'm supposed to be doing.

I feel like you have a much better sense of boundaries in being able to turn those things on and off than i do? Yes, i think i do. Even when i had a nine to five job, like, those were never nine to five jobs, like, there was always overtime and week ends and stuff. And so i think the shift for me with when i had, when we started topotia, was, like, i was still working at night or on the week ends, but the difference was, was that i was getting all the money and benefit of that, and, like, had all the, you now, freedom to shape the direction of it. I have never been good about turning work mode off. And that something that is, is just a constant thing i'm working likes, i think i just really, i both, really enjoy my work, and i really like the sense of relief i get of seeing, you know, an empty inn box or whatever. I like feeling that everything is all squared away, and i just let i just love the kinds of things i get to do. So i find it really hard to turn that off. It's something i've been working on a lot over the past year. But for a long time, there really were no lines, and that was, that was difficult. Like, i was never fully out of work mode. I think for us, turning off live chat, which we did last winter, that was really important, because otherwise we were getting live chat stuff at hours. And so whether it was dinner time, or it was, you know, ten o'clock at night, or sitting in bed, we are always replying to stuff cause we just wanted it to be cleared out. And i think that was pretty unhealthy. And we were pretty scared about turning off lives chat. But it had no, it actually had no impact on the business. We still grew last despite turning it off. So, yes, i guess that's a challenge for me. And especially when the times ownes right, because all my customers are awake right when school gets out. And so it be worse, yes, o, like those hours of like, three to like eight p m, for me are just kind of, everything is happening at once. And the week ends are really the only time that i actually truly get to disconnect. And when i was working on the book, i was doing a lot of that writing, like, in the morning, but it was only when our daughter was out, like activities or something. Ah, so i think i have better boundaries round the week ends than i used to. But week days are still, they're still tough, right?