The Importance of Moving Freely Between Engineering and Science

I just have to think that anybody listening to this will be struck as I am by the kind of mind it takes to do the work that you're doing. So let's then shift gears to something that you're busy with these days, which is advising the Biden administration about wind turbines. Yeah, absolutely. It's been an honor to serve in this capacity. And I'll say it really hasn't been directly connected to any particular of our research aims. But in the president's council, I think we're all broadly interested in science and its development in this country.