The Debate About Cars

I think there's a general tone deafness on the extreme wings of the mobility debate. We can't tell people what to think, but companies that have enormous budgets for marketing and communications and policy need to take the temperature of the target markets before they make sweeping declarations about their products. There are some really interesting things going on in that conversation. I would like to see more under those conversations. Well, actually, let's, let's build a bridge to the news, because our first topic is the California Public Utilities Commission and Cruz and Waymo dookie out with the city of San Francisco.