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Magnus Ramage and Karen Shipp, "Systems Thinkers" (Springer, 2020)

New Books in Systems and Cybernetics

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Is There a Nell and Meadows in Systems Thinking?

I'm really pleased that we're drawing a lot of listeners to this podcast channel who are less familiar with systems thinking. Meadows is an absolutely beautiful place to start. I also would love to talk a little bit about what I sort of see as another major, and you've already touched on this a little bit. Second order cybernetics: applying cybernetics to itself. And it's second order in that sense.

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