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Facing Fear with Alex Honnold | ReThinking with Adam Grant

Climbing Gold

CHAPTER

Is There a Difference Between Fear and Anxiety?

You can reframe the like, Oh my God, I'm scared into, wow, I am on right now and I'm about to send as a climber would say. Like maybe there's something good could happen. Is that what you're getting at? Totally. And so it, you, you actually have these thoughts as you're climbing. It's amazing because a former doctoral student of ours, Alison Wood Brooks did her dissertation on the idea that calming down is much less effective when you're afraid or anxious than telling yourself you're excited.

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