In this chapter, they discuss their experiences with psychedelics such as DMT and mushrooms, and how it allowed them to let go of their ego and take risks. They also talk about the impact of alcohol on performances in the Chicago comedy scene, as well as their own personal experiences with drinking and smoking. The conversation touches on breaking free from societal expectations, embracing their true selves, and the superficiality of judging others based on appearance.
In memory of Kenny DeForest, here is his episode from 2019