Charles Duhigg is a Pulitzer prize-winning reporter and the celebrated author of bestselling book, The Power of Habit. The writer for the New Yorker returns now with his new book, Supercommunicators, which focuses on why some of us are a lot more gifted than others in getting our message heard. Joining Duhigg in conversation for this episode is Helen Czerski, the physicist, oceanographer, writer and science communicator.

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