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050: We Can Be Heroes with Jason Ogle

User Defenders – UX Design & Personal Growth

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The Importance of Being Caffeinated

"I thought I was going to have a heart attack toward the end of a year of doing this," he says. "There were days when I was falling asleep at the keyboard." He credits his wife, who wanted to be a stay-at-home mom with their kids. 'When you have that desire, you have that grit'

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