Jason: I have yet to see any organization where kars represent, like you said, represent what's actually being done. Why do you think it irks me? Because i you read the jondor book, and you look at o kars, and you see how they can be valuable for your organization, but time and time again, they fail in engineering. If anybody is listening,. and they really feel o kars succeed in their engineering work, hit us up, cause iy love to learn more.

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