The Metaverse and the Real World

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I'm actually quite bullish on the fact that we'll always figure out things to do because even if the robot was doing all the manufacturing, you know, we'll go out and play pickleball. There's a new field called VAMHRI and it really stands for virtual, virtual and mixed reality for human robot interaction or human machine interactions. You can put what I love is augmented reality where you can put lightweight goggles like the ones used in AR glasses so you could share a shared world with robots. But also this world is much more interesting because we have the shared experience between us and robots.

What if we each had a personal “buddy” to support us? Maja Mataric is a computer scientist, roboticist and AI researcher at the University of Southern California. She pioneered the field of socially assistive robotics: the design of robots to help humans—especially vulnerable people such as kids with autism, the elderly, and people struggling with illness—navigate complicated social needs. In the second episode of our AI miniseries, Maja, Reid, and Aria discuss AI, robots and our future with both. Throughout her career, Maja has sought to understand human needs and desires in order to create the right kind of robot. How big should it be? Should it be a humanoid? Animal? Or… WALL-E? These questions lead to the nature of empathy itself—and what it means for robots to be empathetic. Maja also responds to an AI-generated story that speculates on the role that a socially assistive robot could play for a multigenerational family.

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Topics:

03:30 - What inspired Maja to pursue robotics?

06:09 - The pop culture perception of “doomsday robots”

07:32 - What are socially assistive robots?

10:20 - How socially assistive robots can enhance our humanity

12:55 - The relationship between an assistive robot and a human

16:19 - The hardware side of AI

20:05 - How our lives would look different with robots in them

24:06 - Why physically embodied robots are important

27:42 - AI story about intergenerational family and a robot assistant

31:16 - How VR/AR can be integrated with AI

38:34 - Rapidfire questions

44:10 - Debrief with Reid and Aria

Possible is a podcast that sketches out the brightest version of the future—and what it will take to get there. Most of all, it asks: what if, in the future, everything breaks humanity's way? In its first season, hosts Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger spoke with visionaries across many fields, from climate science to criminal justice, and from entertainment to education. For this special miniseries, they’re speaking with expert builders and skilled users of artificial intelligence. These conversations also feature another kind of guest, AI. Whether it’s Inflection’s Pi or OpenAI’s GPT-4, each episode will include an AI-generated element to spark discussion.

Possible is produced by Wonder Media Network and hosted by Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger. Our showrunner is Shaun Young. Possible is produced by Edie Allard and Sara Schleede. Jenny Kaplan is our Executive Producer and Editor. Special thanks to Samantha Barber, Surya Yalamanchili, Ian Alas, Greg Beato and Ben Relles.